Linux is not only better than windows, it is also easier to install and maintain
I have never think about doing a comparison between Windows and Linux but, This post inspired me to write this comparison, side by side, specially
where it says, that windows users says that "Linux is hard to install", so I wanted to test it.
First I made this question to me:
What is the usage that most users give to its computer?
And according to me the answer is:
- Office applications (MS Office, Open Office or other alternatives
- Brows the web
- Read emails
- Read news (RSS)
- Chat
- Listen to music
- Review their pictures
Off course I may be wrong but this is what I believe it is.
Well to have all the applications needed to do this:
With windows
You need to install the windows itself and you will be able to:
- Read emails
- Browse the web
- Chat (Only on MSN)
- Listen to music
- Review pictures
To be able to work with your office documents you need to install (and pay) for MS Office or install the windows version of Open office
And do not forget you need to install an anti-virus, a good firewall (windows' one is not good enough)
With Linux
You need to install only Linux (most distributions)
and you have all the funtionalities listed above, and you can forget about the anti-virus, and in some distros also the firewall.
Well, here are the steps needed to have this applications working on XP, Vista and Ubuntu
please compare and judge yourself.
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As you can see XP needs 20 steps, Vista 14, and Ubuntu only 10!! to have the OS installed, on these installations I used all the default options which worked great with my hardware all time
It is a Desktop PC, Pentium IV, 1 Gig RAM, SATA Disk, ATI Radeon Video Card, also worked with my Laptop (IBM T30) at least XP and Ubuntu, never tried with Vista on it.
oops!! I forgot the office for Windows :)... well here it goes, another seven steps!! for Office 2003.
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And we should not forget, that Linux is more stable, its Desktop effects are better, it is less hardware hungry, it is free (as in freedom and as in beer), its messenger client works with MSN, Yahoo, and others.
I have used windows for years! and as I like to install and test all applications, from time to time I had to re-install all the windows, because its DLL got messed and the registry so big that all my system were real slow!!, now with Linux I just use, apt-get or yum and I have a PC at my job wich had Fedora 4, and upgraded to 5, then to 6, and finally to 7 with no reformat it, and it has the same performance as the first day!, I have recently format it to install Fedora7, Etch and Feisty in a triple boot system sharing home directory, so Linux is also easier to maintain than Windows as you can see.
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Good stuff - nice
Good stuff - nice comparison!
Windows is absolute crap - it is expensive, bloated and virus-prone and provides far less functionality (e.g. office apps, programming tools) than
just about any Linux distro will give you (or one of the BSDs for that matter).
Keep up the good work!
- Andy
try out also mandriva spring
try out also mandriva spring (2007.1) and wait for 2008
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Ideas/Technical_specs_2008
I use Mandriva Spring 2007
I use Mandriva Spring 2007 regularly, just do not put here in the comparison, but It is one of my favorites, I like that almost all its applications comes ready to use out of the box except for flash player which is easier to install in other distros, I have tested the DVD and the Live CD version, both great.
It's 3D effects are also easy to install.
Guillermo Garron
You forgot one of the big
You forgot one of the big reasons why I (and a lot of other people) won't switch to Linux: games. Everything you said was true, I don't deny that. However, Linux just doesn't run the majority of new games; it's a simple fact. Until they get some gaming support, it won't catch on with a huge segment of the PC market.
I think you said the
I think you said the ultimate true and I am totally agrre with you. This is the only BIG reason why we have to live with windows.
You are right, They are
You are right,
They are starting, see this post, http://www.go2linux.org/openarena-quake-like-game-for-linux-free
but off-course they are far behind Windows, but is not because of Linux it is because of the gaming industry who does not create games for Linux (At least that is my opinion). I think someday it will happen.
Guillermo Garron
Lawd, here we go again with
Lawd, here we go again with the "M$ sux0rz!111" article. It seems nowadays I'm only finding "M$ sucks!1111 switch 2 linux lolz!" articles. Gone are the days of "Hey guys! I found a nifty solution for that buggy X Driver! Here's how to make it work!"
But let me address your article, here. It's true, up until the point where you end Ubuntu. I find it interesting that you stop at the Ubuntu loading screen, because you're not quite done yet. :P Lest you forget setting root's password? Any driver issues you might encounter?
Oh, not to mention:
THE SHEER AMOUNT OF UPDATES?
Oh, also, going through the screens to add Universe, and the rest of those lovely repositories to your sources.list?
Add that all up and you're just about close to Windows XP. :P
And I also find it disturbing that you say "you can forget about the anti-virus". No. You should never "forget" about Anti-virus, even on Linux. There are viruses out there for Linux! No OS is safe from a virus, I promise you that. The only reason this myth got started, is because fan boys don't do their research. The number of viruses for Linux is starkly lower than Windows, but then again Windows is far more popular.
If the fan boys get their way, there will be more viruses written for Linux. It's just a matter of time and popularity.
By the way, if any of you would like an Anti virus for Linux:
Clam-AV is good, and I think it comes preinstalled on Ubuntu. Most other distrobutions are starting to carry AV as well.
I would also like to point out that Ubuntu doesn't come with a GUI firewall already, though it does have iptables installed.
However, configuring and setting up Iptables for your environment would add several screens to your setup up there. :P
http://www.linux.com/articles/55319 <-- Good reference for GUI apps by the way.
In conclusion, the set up and maintainance of an OS can't be measured that way. You would have to boil down to the file systems and how things installed/uninstalled.
Good post, but I feel it's misguided.
Hey!! thanks, you really
Hey!! thanks, you really took your time to read and comment, I really appreciate that!
Good opinion, thanks.
Guillermo Garron
Yes there are updates to
Yes there are updates to get, but you have to realized that the ease and frequency of updates is the reason why Linux is so stable, safe, and versatile, and how new features are rapidly added to all applications. Also, for telling others to do research, you need to do your own research on viruses in Linux. Linux antivirus packages are not designed to look for or remove Linux viruses, they are to scan files for Windows viruses to keep from transmitting infected files. There are a few existing viruses for specific versions of Linux that were developed as proof-of-concepts that such a thing could exist, however I believe the number of them is around 5-7 ever, as opposed to probably a couple hundred thousand for Windows. In order for a virus to be transmitted to another Linux machine, the user would have to be convinced to get the file, extract it, install it as an administrator, and run it specifically and would have to give the password to do it. Even if someone somehow had a method to convince millions of Linux users to install such software, and the standard OS was Linux instead of Windows, days, if not hours after the virus was released, it would be discovered and the vulnerability it capitalized on would be fixed, and by the 'SHEER AMOUNT OF UPDATES' system you are talking down, it would be rendered harmless practically instantly. It wouldn't matter how popular Linux became, it couldn't become an effective target for viruses and malware, ESPECIALLY if it became the dominant OS, as that would just make the time required for someone to develop fixes for such problems decrease rapidly. For more info on why this is so, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html for what would be required to be 'infected' on Linux.
Great post, spot on. I'll be putting up a site soon, I'll send you a link.
Any driver issues you might
Any driver issues you might encounter?
I hardly face any driver issues, most of them come as kernel modules. I hate using a custom manufacture CD to load sound and video drivers for windows machine. It sucks.
THE SHEER AMOUNT OF UPDATES?
Yes, Windows SP2 and 3 were very small patches. More than 3000 bugs in a system, what kind of test cycle allows this much bugs to get through.
Add that all up and you're just about close to Windows XP
Linux never has blue screens. Windows XP doesn't start in 10 seconds (Any Linux distro sure does). Linux doesn't hang, is much more stable.
you can forget about the anti-virus??
How does the virus affect the system. By exploiting overflow, overrun or heap exploit techniques. Windows has alwasy been late in applying patches. I haven't heard of no-pax patch in windows. Maybe they are still wondering when to complete. Linux viruses will always be less, coz it's tough to exploit. People dont exploit the popular OS, they always exploit the easy OS. I love exploiting it...and thats why windows is my favorite :).
Post is good, and addresses an issue which Microsoft people hate, coz it's something which makes a dent in their market.
What's a virus? What's a
What's a virus? What's a update? What's a driver???
Oh, yes, I remember those times as I had to take care about the computer. Install Windows, install the firewall, install the virus checker, install Office, install Corel, install, install, install, and reboot, reboot, reboot... And then if something went wrong, you could just try to figure out what it is. And after one year, the same procedure again because the PC just become slow.
When did you try Linux the last time? The times as you needed to download the network card driver from some NASA website and to compile it in you kernel are over. Today, it's simply putting a DVD in the box and run it. If you have a fully featured distribution, you'll have a full PC, including all needed programs in just an hour.
I am just a user. I don't want to have to think about viruses, updates, drivers, and so on - that should be automatic, and it is in a good Linux distribution.
And what about Apple? I
And what about Apple? I mean, if were talking simplicity for the end user, Apple takes the cake.
Mac OS X has even less steps than Ubuntu, if I recall correctly. If you'd like, I can provide the Mac comparison screen shots when I upgrade to Leopard in a month or so.
Yes please do so, I have
Yes please do so, I have never use Mac OS X, so please provide me with them.
Guillermo Garron
As someone stated previously
As someone stated previously in another comment, the only reason I haven't made a serious attempt to become a Linux user is that I can't go to the shop tomorrow, buy Bioshock for Linux, stick it in my dvd drive and play it.
Even older games that are just an install away on Windows could take hours/days of faffing around to get running on Linux.
I made a half-arsed attempt at installing video drivers for my 7600GT using a fairly recent release of Kubuntu but the idea in the back of my head was always "I could just go back to windows and be playing in 10 minutes".
I agree that it is at least partly due to a lack of support by the videogame industry but it's also largely because (afaik) there are multiple distributions of linux that all work in slightly different ways, and providing easy to understand documentation for the end user would be a complete nightmare. Then factor in patching and support for games on each of these distributions and you can imagine why the industry isn't exactly chomping at the bit to jump on the Linux bandwagon when they are already making lots of profit on an operating system that is comparitively easy to develop for.
What a horribly contrived
What a horribly contrived article.
Due to your lack of knowledge on the subject, and your clear inability to understand such topics (and your lack of English skills), this article has been turned into yet another campground for idiots to fester on problems which simply do not exist. The linked article that inspired you to write this is also heavily based of the assumption that windows users are idiots.
I see that on your screen shots of the various steps in installing vista/ubuntu, at the point where Ubuntu goes to the loading screen, you tape on all of the vista configuration screens that were not present in the final release, but of course you had to include them, otherwise vista would be the same as ubuntu, which we obviously can't have.
If you are going to use Windows Vista, why did you install an office suite that is four years old? You are comparing the latest iterations of each piece of software, not the previous versions. I believe that you have done this, however, in order to exemplify office 2003's lengthy installation process. Office 2007 in fact has a far simpler installation than most other applications in existence.
Moving on to your further analysis of 'Windows', I quote:
"And we should not forget, that Linux is more stable, its Desktop effects are better, it is less hardware hungry, it is free (as in freedom and as in beer), its messenger client works with MSN, Yahoo, and others."
I take it that you base your assumption of 'stability' on some previous knowledge of what windows once was, and not what it actually is at present. Microsoft have gone to fairly great lengths to give the user as much information about application crashes and system reliability figures, which obviously help more than a command prompt. As for desktop effects, by 'better', do you mean there are more of them? Vista's effects are not to lull the user into a sense of amazement, but rather to increase ease of use, while maintaining a polished interface. Yes, you can improve ubuntu's interface with other applications such as beryl, however this requires additional components to be installed. The default theme for ubuntu is far worse than that of windows vista.
As for vista's supposed 'hardware hungriness', your lack of knowledge on this subject becomes yet more apparent. Vista uses the available hardware to actually enhance the operating system, rather than leave them there, out of use. Prefetching is one benefit of this, and is something that Vista does extremely well, whereas ubuntu's prefetching abilities do not come close to matching the former.
I won't go on, as I believe my criticism has been sufficient enough to persuade you that your article is very poorly written, and that you should further your knowledge with relation to windows/linux, and develop a balanced point of view. There are many more problems with your article that I haven't outlined in this criticism, however due to time and motivation constraints I will stop here.
Your article reads like a third grade assignment, as opposed to a well thought out research essay which is what you are trying to pass it off as.
bollocks
bollocks
Hi, what about the word and
Hi,
what about the word and spreadsheet compatibility? can I work on a text in Linux and continue to work on it at work in Windows Office ?
Yes, I do it all time, I
Yes, I do it all time, I work with Open-Office and almost all my colleagues work with MS Office, all you need to do is save as: MS Office.
In some special cases if you are using special formats the document may vary a little, until today (2 years working with Linux 100% of time in a mainly windows office) I have had no problems at all, surely it is better if you install openoffice for windows at your work. :).
hope it helps, case you need any other help do not hesitate to contact me.
Guillermo Garron
Microsoft have gone to
Microsoft have gone to fairly great lengths to give the user as much information about application crashes and system reliability figures, which obviously help more than a command prompt.
Yes, they have improved in collecting information, but not fixing it. You are a microsoft lover, it's ok no issues. I am a kernel coder and have come across both systems.
As for desktop effects, by 'better', do you mean there are more of them? Vista's effects are not to lull the user into a sense of amazement, but rather to increase ease of use, while maintaining a polished interface.
Techie Stuff
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Windows Vista use of framebuffer cache is a bad example of graphics programming. Open multiple windows max 15 and see the speed of refreshing. I don't face such issue in Linux. Clearly vista is eating up the RAM. Yes I tried it on 2Gb RAM, nVidia GE6 Series.
Vista uses the available hardware to actually enhance the operating system, rather than leave them there, out of use. Prefetching is one benefit of this
Vista never does prefetching. Use Syser debugger to actually debug the code, and you will find a mockery of source code in graphics stuff. Maybe thats why they never release windows code. Scheduler is pathetic enough and never takes preemption to a good level. The architecture of CFQ is far better.
I accept the blog is not techie and doesn't go down to the code level, but anyway the facts are true , whether you accept it or not. Microsoft code is not performance based. Laughable fact is the .exe emulation format still uses the old dos format. Open any exe file and you will see the characters MZ in the first line. Generations of history being carried together from old IBM programmers. It's a legacy.
I don't hate microsoft. I just think thier stuff is not worth using. I don't pay for garbage, but i dont care if people do.
What the Author forgets to
What the Author forgets to mention, is that the installation of Linux doesn't stop there, Try setting up you wireless connection, it's a nightmare. The reality is that Linux is not user friendly, if I have to spend 8 hours trying to connect to the internet and setting up the drivers, I much rather live with the crappier but much user friendly Windows.
No it doesn't take that much
No it doesn't take that much time. Not sure what you were doing, but 8 hours for a wireless connection is like using a 386 to boot up Windows. Process is very simple and in distros like Sidux you don't have to do almost anything...it detects automatically. In fedora also it's easily done. For some cards whose evil manufacturers are not willing to make linux drivers ndiswrapper is the solution but it's not so simple for people like you. Most of windows users are people who want things the easy way, they don't want to make a change they just want to whine at everything. They will support environmental damage is great but won't do anything to stop it....they are just plain lazy. Believe me Linux is not the problem, it's you and your way of living.
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